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October 10, 2008

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Barna

"I agree that Prop 2 would leave the exploitation of animals intact, and not challenge the basic assumption that animals are for our use. I don't see how this would increase exploitation in the long run though."

If as a result of these campaigns, consumers feel better about the exploitation, than that indeed increases the willingness to partake in the exploitation. For example, we are increasingly seeing articles on former vegetarians going back to eating meat, because now that they have access to "happy meat", or "happy eggs", they feel OK with eating it.

But what else do we expect, if the animal organizations themselves portray these products as the "compassionate choice" and such nonsense? They are lying to people, as they know full well that the only compassionate choice is veganism. But in the interest of reaching to the largest possible donor base, they change their message into a misleading (and much more lucrative) one.

Jonathan

I don't think Prop 2 will convert vegetarians to meat and vegans to ovo-lacto. I'd guess that such reluctant vegetarians would find another "reason" (health, inconvenience, etc.) to abandon their diets. Although there might be stories of late about ex-veggies, the small percentage of vegetarians in the population and the recent interest in "happy meat" leads me to believe that the vast, vast majority of people buying "happy" animal products are people who were buying other animal products in the first place.

I'm also skeptical of the claim that animal organizations are so greedy for funds that they dumb down their efforts. Some animal advocates just don't care about farm animals, or have a different definition of "care" than vegans do.

Daivd

It's a quandary. The reason I'm inclined not to support it is that people concerned about animal suffering, who might otherwise have felt compelled to give up consuming animal products, will think the "animal welfare" guidelines mandated by bills like this make it a morally tolerable compromise.

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